Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-9026519-20170909234152

I know I've been noisy about the way staff acts and, after careful consideration, I have decided to do something about it. :)

So, I think I'll start w/ the rules.

For starters, I will admit that staff are supposed to get warnings when they break the rules (such as when Copper did). However, Copper has not and most likely will not receive that warning. Why? Because too many staff members have made similar mistakes. However, to me, this does not justify it and I personally don't want someone who makes negative comments towards other users to be in power especially w/o a warning.

The breach of policies can be seen in. This event took place on the wiki's official discord a little under a month ago and, though many have said that, "This is too long ago", I personally disagree. I'll give you another example - Donald Trump. I know many of you dislike Trump (which is fine). However, if you recall, there were sexual comments made by Trump in 2005 (or somewhere around there) which is over 10 years ago. However, many people (some of you included who commented to me about such comments during the election) found these 10+ year old comments to be relevant in his election. How is a one month old comment supposed to compare to a 10 year one? I personally think that the 1 month one should have more relevance than the 10 year one but maybe that's a flawed logic.

Another prime example of this is Len. Many of the accusations against him came months after he made certain comments and people still supported his demotion and ban. Again, why should a one month old comment be thrown out for "age" when comments both on and off this wiki have been supported by the userbase here as "legit"?

Another comment people use is the fact it didn't occur on the wiki. However, according to general rule 21 (policies broken off site are still relevant if between users on this site), this is still a breach of our policies (specifically rule 1 that is no bullying/harassing). :) Therefore, regardless of whether it occurred on this wiki or not, a warning should be given (minimum).

Now, if you were to come to me w/ what I've just presented and said, "then why doesn't he just receive a warning?" I'd totally agree. However, it goes further than this.

Not only is he not going to receive a warning but, upon being faced w/ this overwhelming evidence, Copper has failed to apologize. In fact, he (or others) have tried to defend him. Even when these defenses are broken, he refuses to apologize and I think this is something that speaks loads.

The people who lead us - the people who are supposed to be more mature - fail to apologize to the user base when they make a mistake. Instead, they cover up their mistakes and try to sweep them under a carpet. Had Copper, the second these images were made public, apologized, I wouldn't have even said he should have gotten a warning. He made a mistake much like everyone else (myself included) and was just unlucky enough to get caught. However, no apology was issued and Copper still remains defensive on the issue.

Just to put this in hindsight, many of the regular users who spouted shit against this wiki have apologized or left. Regular users. These users have shown, in my opinion, a far greater sense of maturity than our own staff yet we are still willing to put them in higher and higher positions? I think that's nonsense and I would like to see some of these staff members demoted. Another prime example of this was the apologies Len made regarding his mistakes. Again, this shows more maturity than one of our current staff members and I have no idea how that does not ring an alarm bell in your head. The most despised user on this wiki is more mature than at least one of our own staff members.

And I think that's a problem. I think it's a problem that we're putting people in power who our less mature than ourselves. People who cannot defuse a situation, people who cannot take responsiblity and people who cannot set an example.

What about you? Will you let this trend continue or will aid me in helping to put a stop to it?


 * Notice I used the plural. That's because, depending on how users react (staff specifically), I might make more demotion threads. :) 