Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-9154802-20170814214042/@comment-9154802-20170815023408

SirVicksALot wrote: Alissa the Wise Wolf wrote:

You misunderstand what I mean by confusion again. I mean confusion in not being able to tell which property template is which, as well as the confusion of basically expecting someone to make their own when it would be easier and save a considerable amount of time by just using a default one. If you are that concerned about having custom Text, I can make it a customizable feature, but you continue to fail to understand the implications of allowing custom templates in the first place. It really isn't as hard to tell whose is whose as you think. The name of the template should be "[Username}[OC/Fanon/Page]" since that would most definitely be the easiest way to tell them apart. Also, it isn't an expectation for each user to have their own, as they can just state on their page that it's their OC/Fanon/Page and to contact them for whatever.

The custom text isn't all what I'm concerned about; it's not having the freedom to make my own template. Sure, toying around with a default one is almost the same thing, but not really. I want the template to be my own template, not a default one modified, if any of what I've stated in this paragraph makes sense, and apologies if any of what I said isn't worded the best; explanations are far from my strong suit.

Whether it makes sense or not isn't the issue, this desire to have custom templates is nothing but selfish and inconsiderate of those who can't make their own as well as inconsiderate of the people who actually have to manage the wiki. You're actively saying that you don't care how much more tedious and difficult you make this for the administration as long a you get to have perfect freedom with your templates. Your reasoning has done nothing but convince me of this, and has done little to even refute my own. When I ask people why they oppose, I expect them to see things from the perspective of the person making the suggestion, rather than selfishly saying no because they don't want their precious little thingy taken away from them, even though doing such may make the wiki better in the long term. And even if you say that not everyone has to make their own custom template, just having a bit of text at the beginning doesn't help. Templates are meant to catch the eyes of the user and draw them to the message present within the nicely designed box. I will literally do everything I can to make the template as customizable as possible to satisfiy your need to have a unique template, because trust me, it's possible to be that unique with customizability, however nothing you say helps me reach the compromise we need in order to make things manageable whil also keeping current users satisfied. It's always "Because I want this" or "I don't want to lose that", despite how little these responses tell us in the hopes of maybe reaching a compromise by the end of the discussion.

Secondly, even though you said people don't have to have custom templates, your reasoning still makes this a necessity for new users so that they don't COPY yours or USE it. You don't seem to understand how Code Illiterate a lot of users are, even long time users tend to know jack shit about code, and most of them don't have the time or patience to learn! This doesn't only make things more manageable for those who manage the wiki content, but it also makes the creation of a page easier for new users who are new to the content creation scene, but your comments continue to fail in considering this aspect of wikia, and it's really starting to piss me off. I know I've said we shouldn't be so considerate all the time on another thread, because there's a such a thing as too much, but your response is among some of the most inconsiderate I've seen, even after I had asked everyone who opposed to try and see from the perspective of people like me who spend most of their time managing wikia content, and those who join wikia, only to be confused and intimidated by how much they have to do to in order to make a page.