Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-9026519-20170909234152/@comment-9026519-20170910004427

SpookieSushi wrote: my computer decided to shut down and delete everything i wrote :')

Honestly, Neutral. Copper is certainly friendly and loyal, not to mention a pretty damn cool person, at least in my eyes. However, I won’t let the “Friend Group Bias” try to kill me anymore. He’s somewhat immature, and I’m unsure if he’s really ready to be staff. I believe that with time, he may be a damn good staff member. For now, I believe, if he ends up being demoted, he should try to get advice from other staff members.

Also, about him not doing his job, I thought I’d mention that Rollbacks do pretty much nothing. Usually, it’s another staff member or regular user that beat them to the punch. If you’re actually reading this and decide to reply, bold your entire reply. Thought I’d slide that in, although I’m not really a staff member nor am I as active anymore to watch. I personally cannot really see Copper as staff anymore. Maybe, one day in the future, if this passes, he should try again. He is a pretty active member on this wiki, after all.

Also, this incident is pretty demote worthy in itself, but isn’t this all just around one incident? Personally, due to the last demote spree, I kinda think it should be at least two, although this incident, again, is kinda demote worthy.

Might write more later, maybe not.

I am responding to your comment so the rest of this reply will be bolded as per your request. ^^

'''I do not believe that Copper is a bad person nor do I try to push that agenda in this forum. I'm simply saying I don't believe that he (or anyone else) should be able to get away w/ what they've done especially when they won't admit to it and instead rationalize it. I also believe that he does have the potential to be a good staff member but that time is not right now. I feel he should work towards fitting what staff should be before running and before being one.'''

'''I am also not pushing the idea that Copper doesn't do his job. I wholehardelty agree that Rollbacks don't really have a job per say and is instead a stepping stone position but I do feel that they carry some authority as staff and should be careful in what they say.'''

'''I totally think that, regardless of whether this passes or not, Copper should continue to strive not only to be a higher ranked staff member, but also a more respected one who is well liked by the entire community. However, I don't think he's fully there yet and these actions continue to prove my point.'''

'''This demotion is also not meant to ruin Copper's entire wiki career. In fact, that's not the goal of demotions. The goal of demotions is to send a message and to give someone time to think about what they did wrong and change before they run again.'''

'''I made this demotion thread not just because of the incident surrounding Copper but the incidents surrounding the entirety of the staff. I believe that we need to send a message that the actions the staff make should have repercussions and I believe one of the worst cases I've seen is Copper's which I why I chose to make this my first thread instead of someone else.'''

'''I also chose Copper because of his lower position. I feel that it would be easier for him to change and make a come back than it would an admin or mini-admin. '''