Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28172979-20170714201930/@comment-32583169-20170716000042

SnapaiKun wrote: (1/2)

Hello all, this is Snapai-Kun here; I've got to say that it seems a lot of people are misunderstanding Pistachio here and I truly would like to help clear things up.

Actually, I already discussed this with Pistacio within the Amino, but they deleted the comment thread. I luckily saved all of the screenshots, so I can go over my own personal argument again.

On the Amino, a rant was posted about this situation going against Pistacio, and this Fanon Wiki in general, rules, however it was not posted because we're filthy art thieves who don't want to credit, but the fact that it's pointless to credit every single individual part of a portrait for a multitude of reasons:

1) It takes time - No Amino user wants to spend hours crediting every single part they used. Imagine a type of car forcefully having to credit every part that was in a car to the person who made that specific part: that would waste the time they could be using to building cars. By crediting the company for building the car rather than crediting every single part, it collectively credits all of the people who created the car parts. This is like the Fanon Wiki and the Individual Piece Makers, in which, by crediting the Fanon wiki iself, it collectively credits the members of the Fanon Wiki.

2) You're still being credited - Pistachio here makes it look like nothing is being credited. In reality, the Fanon Wiki itself is usually being credited, however just not individual pieces. Refer to my "car" analogy in statement 1.

3) The Definition of Fair Use - Unless your individual portrait pieces are watermarked and asked for, anyone can take parts for portraits as they please; your work isn't under copyright, but rather Fair Use. Fair Use is when someone takes "excerpts of Copyright" may be quoted verbatim (unchanged) for the use of teaching, criticism, and research without the need to request payment form the Copyright owner. Any work posted by another member is under Fair Use as long as the following apply:

•The Meaning is Changed (the purpose and character of your use)

•No monotization is being gained

Even with these factors proving that Amino is using the Fanon Wiki under fair use, (no profit being gained and the uniqueness of each portrait changing the meaning) you still end up getting credited at the end of the day with Members usually linking the Fanon Wiki. Not to mention that, by linking the Wiki, and under "useful portrait stuff", all members of the Fanon wiki are credited there, so the issue of not being credited shouldn't even apply.

SnapaiKun wrote: (2/2)

4) Sorry but not sorry to say this but, Pistachio, you're a bit hypocritical. - I did use an example during our argument and you argued it to be "ripped from the game", however the following links I provide show Fanon Wiki parts/parts that are not used in the game not being credited under the name, well, PistacioLord, the same PistacioLord that made a big fuss about this issue on Amino, as well. http://aminoapps.com/p/88pvtd http://aminoapps.com/p/ebpba6z http://aminoapps.com/p/hwseg8

You say you want Amino Members to credit every single individual part of a portrait, but it doesn't appear you do it yourself. And don't worry about deleting those Amino pages, I already took screenshots to prove they existed.

5) Amino's Rules <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:normal;">- The rules on Fanon Wiki do not apply to the rules of the Amino. If we use something, our bare minimum is to make people aware that the art being used is not ours. If you really want that to be changed for your portrait pieces, I would request it to a Leader or Curator; I highly doubt they'll change their rules just for one website to be happy. Plus, as I've mentioned before, the Fanon Wiki works on a fair use system for Amino. <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:normal;">If you really want people to credit you? Don't post them on a wikia without a watermark, and have people request for the pieces.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:normal;">6) Conclusion <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:normal;">- Overall, this whole argument you've boiled up in the Amino and on the Fanon Wiki has been pointless. Dictionary Definitions, Common Sense, and even your own actions... They're all against you. So, I highly suggest getting off people's backs about this before you find yourself in a more problematic situation than you already are in.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:normal;">That's all I have, Dearies.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-weight:normal;">〜 Snapai-Kun