Board Thread:Appeal Board/@comment-32680701-20180811133056/@comment-25317178-20180814031003

Ironically, even though I'm staff, I don't know voting requirements, so Idk if my vote would matter or not.

But if it doesn't, I suppose you just get to know where I stand on this.

I'm neutral.

Get ready for some reading, cause there's a lot of it.

-Power Abuse-

1. Okay, yeah, the deletion of random messages was not okay. Especially when he used a meme against itself to justify deleting messages with said meme. But even though he continued after a few warnings, he stopped eventually, which is better than continuing with the "I do what I want bitch" type behavior.

2. Yeah, he shouldn't have made the fake everyone role without admin approval, and as mentioned by other people on this thread, there's numerous reasons why. BUT what has not yet been mentioned is this: I knew he remade the role after I deleted it, but didn't do anything. Maybe this wasn't brought up due to the fact no one knew, I don't think anyone did. But, to make this easier, here's basically what happened during the whole incident (if you can even call it that):

Iirc, I had clicked on a user's profile for some reason, and noticed they had a role named everyone. They were a senior user, but I noticed the role had no color, so it couldn't be a custom color. I went to investigate by checking the audit logs. I found that Jeodon had created the role, and assigned it to the user I saw had it. I asked what this was for in staff chat, DM'd Porcy about it, and then deleted it, and if I remember correctly, once I had deleted it I said so in the staff channel. Later I was told by Jeodon himself it was to "confuse raiders". I expressed the fact that we barely got raiders anymore, and when we did they hardly ever @ed everyone, therefore, making the fake everyone role rather useless. Jeodon said he'd remake it, and I watched the role list as he proceeded to do so. But I didn't delete it the second time, I went on with my day. I should've deleted it probably right away, or when Porcy herself expressed her disapproval of the role's existence. But it wasn't until a day or so later that I deleted it for the second time.

-Controversial Shit-

1. I think I've used the exact slur used at least once outside of the server/wiki. I honestly can understand and agree with the no slurs rule, but here's the thing: we have over 10 bots. Surely one of them has a filter allowing us to blacklist certain words, that deletes messages with slurs. And from what I know, no staff has really looked into this. We had Dyno bot, which had said feature. But because it deleted stuff that was considered by it itself to be "spammy" and stuff like that, it was kicked. It was added again by someone else, and then banned. No one really tried finding the reason why it was deleting stuff.

-Fights-

I never saw the fight that happened recently involving Jeodon, but honestly, what staff member hasn't fought with a user? Hell, I got into fights with staff while I was a helper. I've seen fights between staff members.

-Wait a Second-

I noticed a good amount of the supports on this thread are users who supported Jeodon's mod application in the discord. But some examples used against him here are before chat mod became a thing again, meaning before he applied. You knew he did a lot of this stuff already, but supported the application anyways?

I'm not blatantly trying to defend or excuse Jeodon's mistakes, and good points were made by others in the thread. Therefore I remain neutral until further notice.

If I need to move this all to a blog post, notify me so I can do so, before you delete this entire comment.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

-Ice​​​​​​​