Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-8846246-20160419193334

Recently I did a vote to tighten more of our ranks, while it did have more support than oppose, it didn't pass. So I'm going to suggest a revamp that uses the idea of the last thread, adds more to it, and explains it better.

I'll also use this thread to respond to some confusion I've been seeing around as it ties into this.

Ranks
Basically, if this passes our staff would consist of these ranks. I'm only including all ranks to help clear up confusion.

Helper (The new rank)
Helpers don't have any rights over normal users, but if a user needs help, they can come to these users. (That's why they're called Helpers)

These users would also be expected to help newcomers if no-other staff is on. (Such as with their first page, giving them tips, etc.)

They would be included in any staff only votes and listed on the staff page.

There would be 8 spots, to represent the 8 spots of Chat Mod and Rollback combined. After being promoted, they must wait at-least 2 weeks before running for Rollback or Chat Mod.

Rollback
Rollbacks maintain pages from vandalism and have a little control over threads. They can run for Content Mod after a month.

Chat Mod
Chat Mods maintain chat but have no-real impact outside of it. They can run for Discussion Mod after a month.

Content Mod
Content Mods maintain pages, can delete pages, and more. They can run for Mini-Admin after a month.

Discussion Mod
Discussion Mods maintain threads and chat. They can run for Mini-Admin after a month.

Mini-Admin
Mini-Admins hold all the previous rights. One of there purposes is for those who want to have all the previous rights but not be an admin. They are also offer a training phase for those who do want to become admin.

However, they can't give out warnings but are capable of hosting things such as "User of The Week".

They can run for admin after 1 month.

Admin
Perhaps the most important rank, admins maintain the whole of the wiki. There are 5 spots for this rank.

Bureaucrat
Bureaucrats are a sub-rank of Admins. They do nothing more than promote and demote people when needed. Bureaucrats are not counted as there own separate rank and are made up of admins.

Conclusion
This would make a total of 7, 7.5, or 8 ranks, depending on how you count them. A total of 33 people would be staff with this. To be admin you'd have to had gone through a total of 5 application.

Making sure we have qualified staff over an amount of staff is also a good thing, so if this slows down people from applying, perhaps it's a good thing. Our staff would still eventually grow to fit this amount, it just would take longer and that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Also, if you only want the new rank without the requirement changes, you can vote for that (even though it makes little sense). Or if you want the requirement changes but not the new rank, you can vote for that. Just saying a support will support both.

Replies
These are some replies I noticed on the last thread for tighter requirements, I thought I'd reply to them before someone says them here.

The current requirements are enough.
The current system doesn't make much sense when you think about it. Rollbacks and Chat Mods have less rights than Discussion Mods and Content Mods, yet you don't have to be Rollbacks or Chat Mods to apply for them. Even Wikia itself suggests using a system more like what I'm suggesting, minus the helpers and mini-admins.

This will turn away people from applying.
Not really, if it turns away anyone, then they probably weren't fit for staff in the first place.

There are/will be too many empty spots.
Then people should apply. How many spots are empty doesn't really matter.

We need more Chat Mod spots, not this.
I've never seen chat without a mod, unless there was a glitch or only one person on. Also, we have 17 spots that can moderate chat. Discussion Mods, Chat Mods, Mini-Admins, and Admins can all do that. Seems like enough mods to me, people just need to apply for them.

There will be too many spots.
With Helpers having little impact except being expected to help out and eventually run for a higher rank, I don't see too many spots being a problem. 